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Briefing
by
Brigadier General Ron Kitrey, IDF Spokesman
National Media Center, Jerusalem,
April 9, 2002
Brigadier
General Ron Kitrey, IDF Spokesman:
I almost said
good evening, but it is not a very good evening for us unfortunately.
I came here to share with you today's events, this morning's events
in the town of Jenin, in which we lost thirteen reservists, infantry
soldiers. Several more soldiers were wounded. I would like to start
with a sharing of the grief we feel, the empathy, the sympathy we
feel towards the families of those thirteen soldiers. We would like
to share with you the need that we had to embargos our announcement
concerning this event, because we have a strict rule, that is to
let the families know first about what happened to their dear ones,
and only then to share it with the public through the media.
Unfortunately,
during that event we had a certain period of time in which we couldn't
find three soldiers. Later on, and that is why we had the need to
embargo all the information, we found them, all dead unfortunately
under the ruins of a certain building. Only then could we actually
go to the families complete with that sad information and then come
out to the media.
We are fighting
in Jenin for about a week. Jenin is the northern town of Samaria,
the West Bank area. I checked: 23 terrorist attacks came out from
Jenin, before the operation that we are handling now actually started.
Twenty three. Several of them were suicide attacks, especially on
Afula, Hadera, the northern and north west part of Israel. We went
there because the Palestinian Authority did not give us an option.
We counted on them to take care of terrorism coming from there,
and not only that they were not doing their job which is a part
of the agreement with us, they are even responsible for several
of the attacks here. So we had to go there and sent over soldiers,
both reservists and regulars, in order to root out the terror infrastructure.
The degree of
the violent resistance that we faced there, was to a degree beyond
our expectations, probably the most bitter and harsh resistance
that we faced from all other towns or cities of Judea and Samaria.
We faced hundreds, maybe coming to more then a thousand explosive
charges, live explosive charges and some more sophisticated ones.
We face hundreds of hand grenades and of course light weapons like
Kalashnikov's, and of guns and light machine guns etc. At the beginning
we faced hundreds of gunmen, several of them terrorists, other militias
and now we believe that there are still several dozens of them.
I cannot tell you, I do not know if there are 40 or 60 or 80 at
the last area in which Palestinian terrorist resistance still exists.
Actually we offered them fair surrender to give up their weapons,
and to surrender to our troops in order to avoid more casualties
mainly on their side but also on our side. We got nothing but more
shooting, and as I said, quite severe resistance.
They have chosen
deliberately the environment of civilian neighborhoods, civilian
areas. That is the typical way guerrilla and terror warfare is carried
out around the world. and this made it especially difficult for
us, because of the methods, limitations and means that we can, could
use in such a vicinity. We know there are civilians there, that's
why we don't use more efficient means that could make things easier
for us. We feel, we understand, that we paid the price today, a
very bitter price, because of that reason.
The area itself,
you can see behind me a view of the town of Jenin, the more dense,
the more squeezed area is here you will be able to see later, closer.
To see a blow up-here, with the red signal here, points out the
area in which the blast took place. A very short description of
the area - very dense and very narrow alleys between the buildings,
two- to three-story buildings. We sent an infantry force in there,
reinforced by some armor, engineers, medics, intelligence, field
intelligence etc. again with a combination of regulars and reservists.
I would like to like to note, with appreciation, profound appreciation,
admiration even, their determination, to their persistence and their
courage.
We had to take
certain precautions, because of the civilian vicinity. We have given
strict orders not to shoot, to hold back fire, the moment you see
or feel civilian families, apart from that, we evacuated the area
before we went in, or during the first stages of our operation there.
The actual clash
happened when two separate forces combined from an infantry platoon,
two very close one to another, but on two sides of a certain house,
a certain row of houses. One of the forces was hit by what we call
an 'explosive charges arena' that was preplanned and set in order
to harm our troops. The other one was actually targeted by rifles,
submachine guns from several places, like windows, roofs. They caught
this small group of soldiers, six or seven of them, in a yard, a
small courtyard neighboring several house around it. Again it was
simultaneous attack and immediately most of the soldiers were hit
and fell. The Palestinian terrorist snipers actually shot them later
one by one.
We understand
that along with the explosives arena there was a suicide bomber
- we found remains of his body on the walls around the area of the
clash.
We believe that
there were something like 20 gunmen, 20 Palestinian terrorists there.
They dragged two or three of the bodies to a neighboring house,
that collapsed minutes later as we understand, because of the blast
from the explosives arena and it took us time to find those three
soldiers as we actually did, under the ruins of this house. Again
we feel deep sorrow, and send our condolences to the families.
We shall continue
to fulfill our missions, and try and do that with minimum harm to
civilian life there, despite the fact that the Palestinians actually
try to drag us deeper into those areas in which the civilian population
is living.
Briefly, I would
like to sum up the events in the north today, up on the northern
border, about an hour and a half of shooting again, this has become
a daily habit. In Mount Dov and the northern parts of the Golan
heights, they hit this time a Druse village, and launched 5 Katyushas,
122 mm. Rockets. Also, a Katyusha fell very close to an Jewish/Israeli
village. I will not mention the names of course not to benefit the
Hizbullah or the Palestinian organization that actually shot those
Katyushas.
Nasrallah today
kept up with his disinformation efforts. The newest piece that I
heard is that, unfortunately we had a car accident in the Caesarea
area in which we lost six lives. Four of them were soldiers. He
announced today that those four soldiers were actually killed along
the Lebanese border by Hizbullah fire, and we dragged their bodies
to Caesarea area in order to make to cover it up. That sums up my
presentation. I'm ready to take some questions.
Q: I just wanted
a couple more details on the ambush situation that you described.
You mentioned that the Palestinians dragged some of the injured
or wounded IDF soldiers into a house. Why would they do that?
A: I guess they
wanted to gain possession of the bodies and then maybe to exchange,
or to kind of blackmail. You know - we will give you the bodies
of the soldiers if you will do that and that. It was so close that_
our soldiers that were not hit were actually so close that they
could put a stop to it.
Q: Can you tell
me what happened after that? Were all these 20 or so gunmen involved
in the ambush, were they killed?
A: Several of
them ran away, escaped, and we believe that several of them were
hit, from nearby roofs or windows and so on.
Q: Considering
what has happened today, how long do you think the Israeli troops
will have to stay, has this extended the mission?
A: Personally
I've said twice already, at least two days in a row, that we hope
tonight to finish our mission there; we control the camp. Unfortunately,
as I mentioned before, the resistance was beyond our expectations,
so it took us more time. And again, in order to be very careful
with what remained there of the civilian population, we felt we
were restricted as to our means and methods. It will take us some
more time; I cannot be specific, whether it will be 12 or 36 hours.
But it is a matter of hours.
Q: You mentioned
that there were 23 terror attacks from Jenin. Is that from September
2000?
A: Yes, during
the time we describe as the armed conflict.
Q: About the
explosives part of what happened in Jenin - you claim the bodies
were dragged in and then the building collapsed when the bodies
where inside?
A: So we understand.
We haven't yet had a deep and precise debriefing, but we'll do that.
Q: How many
Israeli soldiers were operating in the refugee camp? And you talked
about means and methods. How have those means and methods changed
[as a result of the attack today]?
A: The first
question I cannot answer. As to the second one: I'm not sure they
will change, because the basic assumption is that we are operating
in a civilian neighborhood. That means we are not able to
use, for instance,
air power, air strikes; we will not use them, at least for now.
I'm not aware of any change in the methods.
Q: You said
that there are no air strikes on Jenin? There have been lots of
reports of using helicopters.
A: We are using
helicopters for close support; but what I meant was jet planes with
much larger firepower.
Q: Are you planning
any further withdrawals tonight or tomorrow from any areas in the
West Bank?
A: I cannot
answer that. I am not aware of any political guidance to the military
yet.
Q: How many
Israeli soldiers have been killed in Jenin and how many have been
injured? Can you give me the number of Palestinian casualties?
A: We assess
the number of Palestinian casualties at around 100 in Jenin. The
total in the Judea and Samaria area I cannot assess. I do not know
the exact number of Israeli soldiers that were killed there, but
I can make a calculation: 22 - 13 today plus 9 before.
I would like
to make several remarks:
First, we are
well aware from our officers in the field there, in Jenin, that
the Palestinians actually refused our offers to assist them with
humanitarian aid concerning the burial of bodies. We do have our
information that they were ordered to leave the situation as is
in order to manipulate and to put into the headlines the fact that
this was a "massacre."
Secondly, I
brought with me several examples of the explosives vests that we
found in several depots in the various areas of Judea and Samaria
in which we operated. These are only examples. We have many more.
This is the way they do it. We found also wigs that would make it
easier for them to penetrate our settlements or towns. We found
IDF uniforms and we found yarmulkes, skullcaps, which Jewish people
wear on their heads.
What I would
like to show you in addition, with your permission, is a short movie
that we have made from various depots that we have found, explosive
labs, ammunition depots and so forth.
[A movie is
shown. The following appears on the screen:]
Ramallah - Mukata'a
compound - arms - ammunition - sniper rifle - anti tank weapons
- RPG launcher - mortar shells. Salfit - explosive lab for the production
of pipe bombs. Bethlehem - ammunition - rifles. Nablus - explosive
lab. Bethlehem - Explosive charges right below the pavement, just
outside of the Church of Nativity, ready to explode. Ramallah -
mosque - ammunition and explosives for bomber vests. Kalkiliya -
booby-trapped car - car was exploded by sappers. Ramallah - ammunition
depot. Assault rifles - RPG grenades - missiles. Tulkarm - explosives.
Jenin - explosive laboratory - homemade rifles - several lathes
for the production of rifles and shells.
Three remarks:
1. It is not
only the dead corpses they refuse to evacuate, but also wounded
people - they would not allow us. They would shoot at medics who
tried to assist.
2. The fact
that there is such a strong resistance, and the fact that we are
so much slower then expected in getting in, actually proves that
there is not the slightest element of massacre, as they tried to
describe it.
3. We actually
should not have been there in the first place, but those elements
that you have seen here made it impossible for us to ignore it anymore.
That is why we are there. We feel it is the only way we can actually
prevent terrorism in Tel Aviv, Netanya, Jerusalem, Hadera and so
on.
Q: I just would
like to know - at the beginning there were civilians; are there
still civilians in the refugee camp?
A: Yes.
Q: But I heard
from people who have been phoning to them - they didn't dare to
go out. I mean, I heard it from people living close to the camp.
In the camp there was no contact. Also there was shooting whenever
loudspeakers called on people to come out of the house. Can you
comment on that?
A: I can tell
you it is a war going on there and we are aiming, we are shooting
only at the sources of fire that shoot at us. The loudspeakers are
not quiet for a second, I guess. They actually keep repeating for
the people who wouldn't like to be hurt to come out with their hands
up. We check civilians, we do not hold them. We will let them go.
Men will be checked if they have any kind of "background"
that makes us suspicious, and what you heard is actually a twisted
description. This is the way we work. That is exactly why it takes
so long.
Q: Inaudible
(Why don't the people come out?)
A: They are
probably afraid. They have gunmen inside, and military outside.
They are stuck in the middle. That is the basic reason why the Palestinian
terrorists have evacuated themselves to this area: in order to create
a sheltered zone for them to operate freely.
Q: Can I get
a quick clarification. Were you saying earlier you were allowing
ambulances to go into Jenin, but that the Palestinians are refusing?
Is that what you said?
A: Yes, and
not only ambulances. We offered them assistance to bury their dead,
but they actually clashed with us and we found refusal from them.
They don't want any kind of aid, not even humanitarian aid.
Q: (inaudible)
A: (translated
from Hebrew) We know they have refused aid concerning burial of
the bodies of terrorists, for reasons best known to themselves.
Our assessment is that, by keeping all the bodies there, they are
trying to create the impression that there was a massacre there,
and to draw parallels with Sabra and Shatilla.
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